Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Summer months. Why would we do that? I am 100% behind you. is that creepy guy still following us?. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. Double jeopardy? Then the girl he left on the trails comes to find him below the bridge around 3pm and she argues with him for not coming back quickly (he was delayed killing the girls and FSG hears them arguing at 3pm). The rest are guardians. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. ( WXIN) A 2017 search warrant in connection with the Delphi, Indiana killings of Abby Williams and Libby German has been shared with the public. Hes innocent. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. Seine Erfahrung In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? Correct. I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. Do not release information that can be used to do the same or join in attacks conducted by others. Thanks. Why didnt he pull up to his front door? Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? Hes been on my radar for a long time now. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. A lot of my friends didnt join. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. Every podcast is all about them! One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. FSG knew everyone in town. Lmao what am I reading here? The next day, their bodies were found nearby. It was dusty and disheveled. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. Theres only one parent. Would love to join the private group. Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. At 13 and 14 the cycles are messed up bad. Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. That is all it can possibly be. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. I have no inside info, never been to the area and cant pretend Im going to solve the case. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. Etc. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. Abigail,. Believe it or not that is another QP. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "abf47b18ef039f49c8ff02321419d1b6" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Hes in prison where he belongs. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. I doubt it. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there. These are real people stop meddling and just read. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. Can you spell out the name? Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? family/fianc/false alibi providers), or more than meets the eye with this suspect. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him. I in no way have intentions of spreading false information. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. Fascinating episodes - Ive listened twice and got back through the old Delphi episodes too! Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. I love you and the information youre releasing! Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? Guilty until proven innocent! Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. If DP went to talk to the police voluntarily, gave a witness statement, and then went home, that's not a situation that would require being mirandized, and if Skip was in LE he would know that. In 2004, police on Big Pine Key responded to a gruesome scene. He has connections with current LE officers. Its at his home on a shelf! it would have been nice to track the boot prints around the cemetery to the crime scene to the river but I would assume all that evidence is gone. That mod who runs the Libby/Abby Subreddit where LK hosted his Q&A and whom he specifically references (and per himself has given her proof of his real identity) seems to be indicating that LK is not who he claims to be. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. Empiricism is a thing. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Featured Americans eat long list of food banned in other countries Save hundreds by using this free tax prep service Pat Sullivan: Late winter landscape do's and don'ts If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. The suspect's name was on the executioner's Snapchat account, and he was a member of the group. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! On April 19, 2021 42-year-old James Brian Chadwell II told a 9-year-old girl in his neighborhood that she could play with his dog. His story has changed multiple times, and it sounds like they and the source believe that for the initial 2 years of the investigation, he was interacting with LE in a way that was leading LE the wrong direction. So if any POIs happen to get charged with a felony (not related to being BG), it's a hurry up and wait but don't take too long kind of game. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? So the guys had a "Skip Jansen" on the pod to discuss a new suspect who is considered a suspect by LE but not named to the public. On April 19, Chadwell lured a 9-year-old girl into his house at 714 Park Ave. in Lafayette, beat her. Delphi I do believe will be solved soon and I hope for the family it will be. Even if there's someone that may inadvertently turning a blind eye? Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Too much points to them to be coincidence. Much more on that below. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. No, LK is the real deal. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Kinda seems like New Cricket is fake DP, but who knows if he's also Skip and Jersey. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. The doc is his property. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. In the case that I did find false information, please feel free to correct me in the comments below! The 2017 murder of Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Its a farce! We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. Answers to questions about my credibility. She was found in an ivory/white dress. There may never be an arrest in this case. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. Dont pay any attention to that.. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. There will be no name calling from me. He was living in the Evansdale area at the time. Ages approximate. Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. In the case that I did find false information, please feel free to contact me in the comments below or by email. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. The main suspect according to police is a man whose name rhymes with Fat Clown. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. at the car and heads back across the bridge to the car by himself while his cheating girl waits for him on the trails. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. Jersey dude felt so slighted that the Reddit world didn't stop what they were doing to acknowledge Skip's strange trip that he felt he needed to make a post himself to berate those who didn't offer to pay for Skip's gas. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Expunged just means taken out of public records. I am thinking that maybe which ever one was pregnant may not have known. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. The murders all took place inside of a 10 mile radius and all within just 13 months. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! @Skip, Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! I guess Im not sure when he graduated. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. Just a little while ago, New Cricket made a post in a true crime subreddit with a link to an article from Psychology Today about killers hiding in plain sight. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. Etc. Long, 22 pages. It is high time this comes to fruition. Skip and I will discuss where the second sketch may have come from. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. Please help me out here. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. I believe that the reason LE has been so tight-lipped is because they know that the killer is following the case very closely. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. It was February 13, 2017 when 13-year-old Abby Williams and her best friend, 14-year-old Libby German, went on a walk on Delphi's historic trails. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. That makes no sense. Im confused. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. Similar murder conditions. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. No redistribution of this content is authorized on any other YouTube content creator's channel or any other platforms at any time without express legal consent or permission from Behind The Crime Door. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. She didnt know what he did? Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? He killed a woman. true crime garage stitcher true crime garage stitcher. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. FAIR USE Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. This Video is protected under copyright laws and violators will be prosecuted. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! I will. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? We just sent a couple of our investigators out to Delphi and surrounding towns. Well, guess what? Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. In Lafayette -- about 20 miles away from Delphi -- a 10-year-old girl . However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. Also to True Crime Garage. Theres just journalists. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. I do not have a POI and I am in no way accusing anyone of being Bridge Guy. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. Yes. I also believe there are other factors at play here possibly being protected and I dont think LE wants the truth of what happened to Abby and Libby to come out for whatever reason. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. Make Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. But about that fake DP Facebook account 3 days ago, New Cricket made a post here talking about the possibility of BG having a martial arts background and included links to a couple of old newspaper articles showing DP with his martial arts class when he was younger. Possibly works with kids. Knives. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. The motive was sexual. From memory, the first sketch is derived from the witness descriptions of 2-3 people? I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. Tobor I would love the info bcw4118@gmail.com. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. Who is Skip that you think "he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case"?? Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. Hard to believe that there are two DPs and two QPs in such a small area. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. Your critiques are not even making sense. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. Something to think about. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said investigators have received about 500 calls since the information on the fake anthony_shots profile was released last week by Indiana State Police. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. Isnt that logical. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. I have been searching for the witnesses, DP. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. Allen, who has entered . The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. He will be embraced by those that matter but I can only hope that those who need to get stuff off their chest reach out to him because he is there to bring those two girls justice and if I was BG, I would be definitely be scared. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. I can just picture skip Jensen strutting in to delphi , I hope he films it too. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Oct. 3, 2017 Indiana State Police visit Colorado to investigate, Nov. 11, 2017 Carroll County Prosecutor Rob Ives, Jan. 16, 2018 The owner of the property where the girls bodies were found, Jan. 17, 2018 The families of the girls give. ), and has a strong connection to the girls. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. Shop eBooks and audiobooks at Rakuten Kobo. I am trying to be vague. But its definitely him! Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. And two girls were abducted there also. Yes, I know. A pair of binoculars. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. Some of this confusion is probably natural, since the the whole B family has gone underground. Temp banned. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? Not the people who called him distasteful. Isnt that logical. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Im not sure if its better that way or not. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. Not important? Abigail, 13, and Libby, 14, went out on the Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi for a walk on Feb. 13, 2017, and what happened next is mostly a mystery. It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. The family knew something was wrong. Kline admitted to state and federal agents that he opened the account just 12 days after the murders of Abigail Abby Williams and Liberty Libby German near Delphi in February 2017. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I very much think that a lot of the things that have puzzled me are now easily explained by Skip Jansen and Faceman's theory. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Thanks for your time. We can look into any case we want! Corn fields? Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. BG was very well disguised that day with a white scarf covering the lower half of his face. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. But now we have an excellent regular LE source close to the investigation giving us regular updates, the best LE source weve ever had. The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. 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